Would you really want to win the lottery?

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By Pcunix


"Did you remember to buy a Lottery ticket?"

My wife had shouted that from another room as I unpacked the groceries I had just come back from buying. I hesitated before answering. In fact, I had not bought a lottery ticket, but it was not because I had forgotten: I didn't buy it because I did not want to risk a chance of winning.

The specific lottery ticket would have been for the Mega Millions, a multi-state lottery that had a top prize of over $300 million dollars that week. That's a ridiculous amount of money - $15 million a year if taken as an annuity and something around $75 million dollars after taxes if taken as a lump sum.

If you Google for "lottery winners ruined lives" you get a quick appreciation of just how dangerous that kind of money can be. It's not just a matter of you being smart enough not to carelessly blow it all - this is the kind of money that causes divorces, estrangements from friends and family and can even lead to murder (Google for "Lottery Winner murdered").

I honestly wouldn't know what to do with that kind of money. Sure, I have some family and friends who could use a little financial help and our own retirement funds could certainly use some bolstering, but that much money is simply too far beyond anything any of us need.



The Evils of Gambling

People who object to all gambling would say the solution is simply not to have lotteries. That's unrealistic - there may or may not be valid arguments that the social cost of these activities exceeds their value, but if there are, those arguments are being ignored and will likely continue to be ignored.  Lotteries exist, and are unlikely to be stopped.

That doesn't mean we can't take some of the evil out.


A Proposal

I really think it would be smart if lotteries put limits on the top prizes and spread the excess across the lower prizes.

I know the immediate objection: people get excited by large amounts of money and lotteries use that excitement to help fuel ticket purchases. I understand that there would be strong objection to any monetary limits because of that.

However, let's not forget the ruined lives and the destruction of both friendships and marriages. Those things are important, are they not?

Moreover, I'm not sure that excitement cannot be built with a limit. Let's say, for example, that the Mega Millions lottery limited the top prize to $2 million dollars. That's $100,000 a year as an annuity and roughly $500,000 as a flat sum after taxes. That's a nice sum of money, enough to better most folks lives, but not so much that it is as apt to cause life disruption - that still could happen, of course, but it would be less likely.

What I'd suggest is letting the money build until someone wins, and then distributing the excess among the bottom tiers. So, in this case, someone did win $312 million dollars Friday night. Under my idea, they'd win $2 million and roughly $310 million would be distributed to other winners.

In the case of this lottery, the current breakdown of winners was:

A recent lottery winners breakdown from http://www.buymegamillions.net
A recent lottery winners breakdown from http://www.buymegamillions.net


I'll leave it to someone else to decide how the distribution would work and what the maximum prize should be, but if $10 million extra were allocated to the bottom tier and there were two million winners in that bracket, each winner would receive $7 instead of the $2 they get now.

The "Match 3 and Bonus" tier, which currently gets $150.00 and had a little less than 10,000 winners in that drawing, might get an extra $1,000.00 each - a nice incentive to buy tickets, I think. It may not be quite as exciting as $300 million, but again, we have to remember the problems that often accompany large lottery winnings.

There's another reason to do this. In these difficult economic times, spreading money out to more people seems more fair than making one or two people excessively wealthy.

I like this idea. If you do too, please help spread it around - email a link to your politicians to put a bug in their ear. and ask others to do the same.

If you don't like it, please do leave a comment with any suggestions you might have.

Comments

WillStarr profile image

WillStarr Level 8 Commenter 13 months ago

If nothing else, the winner should remain anonymous and should have to receive counseling on how to handle their sudden riches.

If they then choose to reveal themselves, that's their responsibility.

If the payouts are small, I don't think it would attract very many players. It's the dream of millions that lures them in.

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Pcunix Hub Author 13 months ago

So you don't think a few million is enough of a dream?

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Mike's Corner 13 months ago

Interesting concept, Pcunix, I agree that after a certain point the jackpots becomes absurd, but I'm not sure $2 mill (500k after taxes) would be enough to excite a lot of people (I'd take it), but I do think a $5 mill. or $10 mil jackpot creates enough of a life-changing incentive to get people to buy tickets. I think if most people understood odds, they would be happy to have the chance to win more at the lower prize levels.

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Pcunix Hub Author 13 months ago

Sure - if it takes $5 or $10 million, then that's what it takes. After all, a million doesn't go nearly as far today as it did when we were kids :)

WillStarr profile image

WillStarr Level 8 Commenter 13 months ago

"So you don't think a few million is enough of a dream?"

I never play because I'm realistic. But no, I don't think more, but smaller payouts would attract the dreamers. I could be wrong,of course.

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Alastar Packer Level 8 Commenter 13 months ago

Did you hear about the guy who won the big one, got himself a girl on the side, his wife and family left him and eventually he tried to get them back with no luck and committed suicide.

Theres a lesson in there some where wouldn't you say WillStarr.

WillStarr profile image

WillStarr Level 8 Commenter 13 months ago

Pcunix,

On second thought, if the suggestion of $10 million was combined with a 'tax free' status, I think you might have a great idea!

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Alastar Packer Level 8 Commenter 13 months ago

Apologize for breaking the thread.

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Pcunix Hub Author 13 months ago

No apology needed.

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Lyn.Stewart Level 4 Commenter 13 months ago

New Zealand has a limit to how big the lotto can get to before the prize is spread to the lower tier I think its it the 30 mill area then that week if there is no 1st division winner all those who won second division get the prize spread between them

Pcunix profile image

Pcunix Hub Author 13 months ago

Smart people, those New Zealanders :)

Stan Fletcher profile image

Stan Fletcher Level 2 Commenter 13 months ago

I agree with you wholeheartedly. The Lottery is gambling for people who can't do math. Sweeten up those lower levels and spread it around! I wish some state would at least try it.

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Sophia Angelique Level 6 Commenter 13 months ago

I would absolutely love to win the lottery.

To date, I won the Green Card lottery (that's how I got my green card to come to the states). And then I won some money in one of the UK lotteries which gave me enough money to pay for everything involved in coming to the States. Wasn't much, but it paid what needed to be paid. :)

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Austinstar Level 7 Commenter 13 months ago

I would love to win the big lottery just to say I did it! Then I'd buy a private island off the grid and not let anyone but my close friends in by invitation only.

Mostly it's because I'm tired of living by somebody else's rules. I'd have my own "country". Screw the little people! hahahaha

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DzyMsLizzy Level 7 Commenter 13 months ago

Damn right I'd want to win that kind of money! How else could I become the philanthropist I'd like to be???

That said, you have better odds of being hit by lightning, and generally, you may as well take your dollar and set fire to it.

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Jane Bovary Level 1 Commenter 13 months ago

Pc...I'm with you on spreading the payouts. 300 million is just excessive. We've never had one approaching anywhere near that in Australia.

However, to answer the question..yes I would like to win the lottery and I don't believe for a second it would *ruin my life*...oh jeeze, no. In fact it would take alot of the stress out of life. Money can bring freedom. I call it "f*ck off money"...meaning you never have to be beholden to anyone or anything ever again.

When people buy a lottery ticket, they are of course buying a small sliver of hope. The more desperate you are, the more likely you are to buy a ticket, though you're probably the one who can least afford it. It's one of life's little ironies.

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karengibsonroc Level 2 Commenter 13 months ago

:)i loved your hub and thoughts...but have to also say that i loved the comments:):) i would love to win!!! hands down and take my chances!!! yahoooooo!!!

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sueroy333 13 months ago

I like the idea of smaller payouts at the top, but agree with Will that 5 or 10 million would be a greater incentive than 2.

I won't buy lottery tickets because I believe you appreciate what you have worked for, and like you, I've heard of too many people that have a lot more problems than they bargained for.

I'll stick with the poor but happy road for now, but nice idea!

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LeanMan Level 4 Commenter 13 months ago

I think the big payouts are a joke... the money would never be spent... not effectively to help the country anyway... 150 $2million winners would do more for the economy and everyone around them than one winner of $300 million..

But would so many people buy if they could "ONLY" win $2 million..

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ocbill 13 months ago

Yeah, I actually had my distribution planned if I one. a portion to family to start their own business (with help from experts), invest in income property, a portion to my hometown community (gentrification). I had always thought when you make that much the govt. takes 40%-to-50% not 75%. Yeah, we are one of the most heavily taxes countries.

I don't get your calculation.

excerpts online: " If a person won $50 million on the lottery, their federal income tax would total just under $17.5 million. Most states do not levy state income taxes on winnings on the state lottery."

-- Example*: If the New Jersey Lottery estimates a jackpot of $11 million, the approximate Lump-Sum cash value is $6.3 million.

Source(s): NJ lottery website

-- www[dot]usamega.com/mega-millions-jackpot.asp

CA & Texas have no taxes on mega millions winnings.

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Pcunix Hub Author 13 months ago

Taxes are not 75% , it's the difference between an annuity and lump sum that cuts a big chunk out - then that chunk is taxed.

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Leighsue 13 months ago

I would love to win a big lottery. I would take care of all of my family and friends, then give to all of the charitys I believe in. I would only keeps enough to live comfortable for myself. It's a dream though.

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Sunnyglitter Level 3 Commenter 11 months ago

Interesting hub. I'm glad I'm not the only one who is terrified of winning the lottery.

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J Burgraff Level 4 Commenter 8 months ago

I'm not terrified of winning the lottery. I would remain anonymous and I would be an incredible philanthropist. How wonderful to actually be able to use that money for good causes, instead of 22 K. Gold sinks in your yacht. If any of you win that big and need some help, let me know!!

ts 1111 7 months ago

i agree with Leanman 100%.....big payouts would never be spent,it would be alot better having the money capped at 1 or 2 million and therefore have a lot more millionaires that would spend and keep the economy going etc

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Matty Says Level 1 Commenter 2 months ago

I find the lottery to be one of the most fascinating phenomena. Money is a tool that can be used well or not so well, but I think it's really in the planning stages. People want to win and have money, but don't have much of a plan for it after the first few months of purchases.

Even with potential problems, it's still enticing. Even with all of the positive possibilities, it can still destroy a soul. So much uncertainty and it only costs a couple of bucks!

Pcunix profile image

Pcunix Hub Author 2 months ago

Well, a couple of dollars for those of us with working brains.. much more for many others, unfortunately.

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Pcunix Hub Author 7 weeks ago

Massachusetts recently came out with a game that has a top prize of $1,000 a day for life.

Plenty enough, I think.

naoma 6 weeks ago

If I won the lottery, I'd disappear so fast, no one would ever find me. I think people would "come out of the wood-work" proclaiming to be "your friend." Of course, I did not win, so I won't disappear. Nice thought, though.

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